Sometimes, one’s patience becomes worn out, and today, my patience with Canada Post has run out to the point I absolutely will not use them for packages or shipments where time is important.
I doubt Deepak Chopra will read my blog post, but if you do happen to come across it, I note that on the Canada Post website it says,
Mr. Chopra is responsible for running Canada Post Corporation. This
$7-billion group is the single largest enabler of remote trade and commerce in the country through its postal network and subsidiaries Purolator, SCI Group and Innovapost.
Well Mr Chopra, I hope you take some responsibility because very few other people at Canada Post seem to want to. Indeed your office has been extremely slow in responding to correspondence from me that was forwarded to you by my MP, David Tilson (Dufferin – Caledon), correspondence I sent back in December, 2013.
Let’s start with the litany of idiotic and crappy service beginning with today’s frustrating experience:
1. I ordered some garden supplies consisting of several packages of vegetable seeds and some other small items from Richter’s located in Goodwood, ON. A couple of days later, April 14th, 2014 to be exact, that my order had been shipped via “Expedited Parcel” with the tracking number of: ‘TG114243495CA‘.
I had hoped it would have arrived before today, April 22nd, 2014 but I did realize that Good Friday and Easter Monday are Holidays for Canada Post employees. However, the package was received by Canada Post on the 14th of April in Newmarket. Orangeville is a 45 minute drive from Newmarket. Yes, I realize there are other considerations; Canada Post may not have a major sorting centre in Newmarket, but even still – getting it to Mississauga should not be that difficult, and then directly north to Orangeville, right?
Here’s a screen shot of the Tracking as of today’s date at 7:20PM:
Well Mr. Chopra, your Canada Post employee lied. The package was NOT successfully delivered. Furthermore, there was zero attempt to deliver it to my address at 12:27 PM. I had checked the tracking earlier in the morning and noted that it was apparently “out for delivery” and I made sure my door was open, and I had my son sit in our living room in such a way that he could watch the door. During my morning, I watched as a UPS truck made a delivery next door, then a Purolator truck, and later in the afternoon, another major courier firm went down my street and made a delivery. But no Canada Post trucks.
In addition, I was in my office, watching frequently from my window which has a view of the street and walkway up to my door. In the late morning, a letter carrier walking her normal route did put some advertising flyers through my mail slot. She did not knock on my door; left no card advising of the availability of picking up the package, and so I assumed a Canada Post delivery truck would be at my door with the package.
At approximately 12:45PM, I happened to recheck the tracking status and that is when I noticed it had been updated to “successfully delivered.” But it had not been.
I immediately called Canada Post’s customer service 1-800 number to find out what could be going on. The lady that I spoke with stated that it was common practice for carriers to pre-scan packages before going out on their delivery route, knowing that at some point during the day the package would be delivered. She indicated this practice would cause a tracked item to appear to have been delivered successfully when it had not yet been.
As far as I’m concerned, this is B.S. And indeed, a friend of mine who is a “Route Measurement Officer” for Canada Post also advised me that this is “B.S.” What other business could ever claim a job was completed when it’s not been completed? If this is a standard practice, it’s a very dishonest practice, and while your corporation’s tracking system claims a package has been delivered, it most certainly has not. Perhaps it makes for better stats or something, but it is simply false and is a lie.
No one can tell me where the package is. No one can take responsibility to let me know what has become of my package. Did the postal carrier steal it? Has it been mis-delivered?
So that is today’s frustration with your Corporation which has become as far as I’m concerned, an utterly useless and undependable organization. Let’s carry on:
2. Express Post To Brockville – What Happened?
On April 8th, 2014, I arrived at the Orangeville Post Office on Broadway with an envelope I wanted to send to Brockville by Express Post. I was advised that the envelope, which contained birthday cards and small gifts for my son, would arrive by 11th of April, 3 days later.
I was quite pleased to see during the day on the 11th, when I tracked the package, that it had apparently arrived. But later, when I had communication with my son, he advised me that it had not arrived.
I logged back onto the Canada Post website only to discover that in the evening, the Express Post envelope was being returned! Check it out:
The address written on the envelope is legible and easy to read. It is the correct address, and is the residence of my son. And yet, the item was returned to me with the word “Moved” on it. My son has not moved. The only explanation we can come up with is that Canada Post did not deliver the item or the notification card to the correct address. It is just sheer incompetence and a lack of ensuring a job gets done correctly.
Yes, I have requested a refund and am to receive it, but it’s not just the money, but the disappointment as well as the time that I had to spend (walking 20 minutes each way to pick it up at a retail outlet when it was returned), because of incompetency of Canada Post.
The Day I Canada Post Refused To Sell Me Postage Stamps:
How utterly idiotic is that one would walk into a Canada Post Office (not a retail outlet, but an official Post Office) and be refused the ability to purchase stamps? This must be one of the most idiotic management decisions ever made and there ought to be an award for it with the words “STUPID” written across it.
On December 11th, 2013, I walked to the Canada Post Office on Broadway in Orangeville, and one of the bits of business I wanted to conduct was the purchase of official Canadian stamps so I could send out Christmas cards and other items in the mail to clients, family and friends. I was stunned at being told by the clerk behind the counter, “I’m sorry Ian, but we’ve been told to take the stamps off the shelves and have been threatened with our jobs if we sell them today.”
Huh??
What Canada Post Management team or person made the moronic decision to stop sales of postage stamps in December, at the height of Christmas Card season, just because some new denomination stamps were not ready in time and had not been delivered to postal outlets? I was told that I could purchase the stamps if I had Christmas cards that were addressed, at the post office counter, but that I could not buy a roll of stamps to take back to my office and stick them onto my envelopes when I was ready to do that.
Seriously Mr. Chopra, this must have been one of the most idiotic decisions your Corporation has ever made. Who is taking responsibility for that? Christmas time, and Canada Post needs to ration postage stamps? But it wasn’t even as is there was a need to ration them; your management ordered clerks to not sell the ones they had. You know, there’s a word for people like that where I’m originally from in Ireland: Gobshites. I really can’t think of a better word to describe someone or some people that would cut off postage stamp sales at Christmas time.
I was told to return the next day when the new stamps were expected to be in. Guess what? I did return. No new stamps. Again I was refused the ability to purchase them.
Do you understand why this decision deserves the “Award Of Being Utterly Stupid?”
But there’s more, Mr. Chopra! After I had that experience, I emailed a letter to my MP and to Ms Lisa Raitt, Minister of Transportation who’s office overlooks Canada Post. My MP forwarded my letter onto you in January. Your office did not bother to respond to me until close to the end of March! It was a pretty lousy response which did not recognize the stupidity of Canada Post’s decision, nor acknowledge the major inconvenience it caused to your customers. I will say that although your office took it’s time in sending me a response, Ms Raitt was even worse, not replying until April 8th.
Next Day Delivery To Aliston That Took Almost A Week:
In December, around the same time as the above debacle over postage stamps (it may have been the same day), I was assured I could send a package “Next Day Delivery” from Orangeville to Aliston, Ontario. The contents of my shipment were very time sensitive and were to be a surprise for the recipient.
Guess what? It did not arrive the next day. I called Canada Post, they acknowledged the fact it had not arrived and promised to send me a refund cheque (which took about a month). I was advised though that when the package did arrive at it’s destination, it would not be delivered to the door, but instead to the recipient’s “community mailbox.” My original intent was to have it delivered to their door; that was what I was expecting. But while discussing the complaint with Canada Post, I learned that even with expedited packages that are guaranteed “next day” delivery, that only means they will get a notification card in their “community mailbox” and a key is supposed to be left for a larger compartment where they can pick the package up.
But even that did not happen! The package too five business days (a full week) before the recipient received the notification card – with information that the package was available at a postal outlet at a Shopper’s Drug Mart. Your Corporation cannot even get delivery right, into a community mailbox.
By the time it had arrived, there was no point in it being picked up as the contents would have gone past an expiry date. In addition, the recipient does not have a vehicle to go across town.
The Wild West Where Packages Sit & Sit… & Sit.. & Wait For The Pony Express Return Trip
Approximately a year and a half ago, I sent another time sensitive package to Whitecourt, AB via Express Post (Three Day Service). I don’t recall the full details now at this point, but for whatever reason, it could not be picked up at the retail outlet where it was.
Although it was time sensitive, the contents were still valuable, and should have been returned to me. Do you know how long it sat out there? OVER 6 WEEKS before it was finally returned, and then Canada Post expected me to pay for Express Post shipping back to me!
Attempted Delivery Notice Lies
Canada Post is a lying Corporation. There have been numerous other times when I’ve been sent packages during your watch over Canada Post, Mr. Chopra, and have discovered an “Attempt to Deliver” notice in with my mail. There was no attempt to deliver whatsoever. How do I know? I work out of my home. I am here. My little Boston Terrier barks when someone knocks on the door. What seems to happen is that instead of an attempted delivery, the packages will get dropped off at the retail outlet and then the next day, a notice is sent asking me to go pick it up.
This is pathetic. It is also dishonest. It’s not what the shipper paid for. With that said, it’s actually fraudulent for Canada Post to claim an attempt at delivery when none was made.
The above are all issues that have occurred under the watch of Mr. Deepak Chopra. But Canada Post issues go even further back, and you may as well be aware of them:
Purolator Sucks
Some years ago, I ordered a vital and important piece of equipment for my business from the USA. Although I was not expecting it, the shipper thought he would do me a favour by sending it via USPS Expedited or Express (or whatever the term they use for “getting the mail somewhere fast”). What we didn’t know is that once such mail crosses the border, Purolator deals with it. Of course, Purolator is owned by Canada Post and was at the time I write of, as well. For a variety of reasons, my official business address was a Canada Post Office Box number (one of the reasons was that Canada Post could never seem to figure out how to correctly deliver my mail to my office at that time and a P.O. Box just meant I got my mail more efficiently).
So what happens when Purolator takes over from the USPS, as contracted by Canada Post? Well, at that time, (perhaps they have improved now), if the address recipient was a PO Box, they’d just return the shipment to the shipper! No attempt to deliver, no attempt at making contact with the receiver.
This particular case, it was brought to the shipper’s attention that the shipment was being returned to him. After some research, is when I learned that Purolator had taken over the shipment. It had arrived in Ontario, and then was marked “Return To Sender” by them. When I discovered this, the shipment was actually in Vancouver, and yet Purolator REFUSED to allow me to provide them with a physical address! So here’s Purolator admitting that they are not set up in any way to deal with shipments marked with a PO Address.. but guess what UPS does?
Ahh.. UPS has customer service in mind – they will send a postcard to the PO box asking the recipient to contact them to provide a physical address. But even though Purolator was/is connected with Canada Post, they can’t do that… something is bizarre.
Canada Post Steals Other People’s Business:
I say “steal,” because indeed that is what it is. Canada Post Corporation is a monopoly that has also been protected from competition. It is illegal for me to start up my own mail business.
I started my business with sweat and tears, asked for no grants, government loans, or any other such thing, and between myself and my business partner, built a business that was providing internet related services including e-commerce enabled websites to businesses in Canada and the USA. Canada Post was difficult to work with in regard to getting shipping cost plugins for Canadian online retailers. I had made many inquiries and was refused any type of assistance in helping my clients estimate shipping costs via Canada Post.
Subsequently, Canada Post, who holds a monopoly on mail, decides to compete with me in the web development business! Sending out glossy postcards to businesses, with promises of wonderful e-commerce sites and Canada Post rates all built in for easy calculation of final charges to customers.
I lost clients to Canada Post because of this one feature, that Canada Post would not provide to others – being able to calculate shipping costs based on Canada Post rates.
Well.. a couple of those clients returned to my business after experiencing horrible service as far as their web development needs were concerned… but still, the nerve of Canada Post management to pull the stunt they did, and literally steal business away from other businesses and refuse to support small business, and compete against them, while having their own legal protections for the business of mail.
If you are reading this, and you are a Canada Post employee, I don’t want you to take this personally that I think you are an inefficient person. Or a bad person. However, you ought to know you work with some real boneheads, and that lack of service, their lack of honest, their lack of integrity, as well as the boneheaded decisions of some managers, have meant that I am now no longer going to use Canada Post for packages that I want or need to arrive quickly. I realize I will have perhaps have to pay more for the use of a reliable service such as UPS, but the unreliability and absolute insane decisions made by Canada Post have left me in a position of not having any other choice.
While there is much that can be done about some of the dumb decisions made by managers, you should realize that your own peers that are dishonest are part of this problem as well, and protecting them is stupid for your own long term job security. Whoever scanned my package that I was supposed to receive, and marked it as “Successfully Delivered,” lied today. I don’t know if it was stolen, or delivered to the wrong address, but whatever happened, it’s caused me inconvenience, and I paid money to have that shipped to me via Canada Post.
Whoever didn’t properly deliver or ensure delivery of my “next day delivery” to Aliston back in December is responsible for part of my dissatisfaction with Canada Post. Whoever allowed my package to sit on some floor or shelf in Alberta for six weeks did not do their job. Whoever is putting “Attempted Delivery Notifications” through my mail slot without actually ensuring an attempted delivery is lying.
And while you may have your own gripes about your employer, your conduct in either acting in this way, or protecting a fellow employee acting in this way, is causing waste of time and money to others.
And finally to Mr. Deepak Chopra, I’ll repeat how I started: The Canada Post website says YOU are responsible. So take some damned responsibility. As far as I’m concerned, UPS, with their reliability have won me as a customer. I was your customer to lose, and today, you finally lost me to the point I’m going to recommend to others that they suck it up and move to UPS for their on time and reliable delivery needs.
It has simply been years worth of a litany of errors, stupid and idiotic decisions and service that no one in the private sector would ever survive in offering. Today was the last straw.
Ironically, when I emailed the shipper of my package that Canada Post claims was successfully delivered, to let them know it was a lie; that it had not been delivered, this was the response I received:
I am going to forward a copy of your e-mail to our Canada Post Rep. too
We are also very frustrated with the services being provided – so much so that Conrad Richter has launched a web-site entitled “whats wrong with Canada Post” .
I did a quick Google search – here is Mr. Richter’s website: http://www.whatswrongwithcanadapost.ca/
(Addendum: I KNOW there are good people at Canada Post, and I would like to thank those of you who DO care and have taken an interest, especially to Stacey who has offered her sincere apologies for my experiences and has tried to assist. The 2 clerks who work at my local Post Office are great people as well – and I can see their own frustration when they roll their eyes as I recount experiences to them. This “rant” is not meant and should not be taken by all Canada Post employees as something against you. At the same time, there are occasions, I need dependable service and your employer is just not providing that, along with idiotic decisions as I reported, above. I trust you will read this, in that light).
I agree with this. Canada Post needs a big shake up. We’ve had similar issues and not just once, but so frequently to know there are systemic problems at Canada Post.
I too have had many negative experiences with Canada Post.
1. My husband purchased a vintage comic from eBay and it was shipped through Canada Post. Although the package arrived in a timely manner, the carrier who made the delivery was completely unprofessional. He didn’t buzz us….we live in an apartment building. He quite deliberately dropped the package on the ground under our mailboxes and then left. Had we not noticed that the mail was delivered it probably would have been stolen.
2. I ordered a gift for a friend from a company that I have made many purchases from in the past. Once it was picked up by Canada Post, everything started to go wrong. The package was supposed to come to Oshawa. It arrived finally, having taken about 2 weeks, and then was sent back to the sorter in Mississauga, and then on to Ottawa. The bar code was not compromised, and the postal code was quite clear. We had to wait a further week for it to come back.
3. Recently I ordered a pair of glasses online, again from a site I trust and that I’ve ordered from before with no issues. Again, once Canada Post got their hands on my package, things went wrong. My glasses arrived in Mississauga at the sorting facility, then came to Oshawa, then, for some unfathomable reason, got sent BACK to Mississauga, then came back again to Oshawa. What the hell is going on with this company?
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I receive next day priority mail 75% of the time. 1\4 things I send out or get sent to me don’t come on time.
I’ll never use them again.
I have ordered books a few times from a site and they automatically ship through Canada Post. I don’t think there’s even another option or I would use it. I have put on the label “LEAVE AT DOOR IF YOU CANNOT REACH ME,” and have also spoken to the previous mail man in person about this (meaning, I told him emphatically that I completely understand the risk of having it stolen and I am okay with that – I’d rather risk it than deal with their stupidity). I have, a few times had them not catch me when delivering it, so they send it to some post office across town (even though on their site it says they send it to “the most suitable post office by proximity” – yea, right.). I don’t drive. I can’t really afford to go across town to pick up a package of books and carry it home on the bus. I realize why they have the security policy but when I specifically label it to leave it there, it should be left there. I also was pretty sure that the last time I complained about this issue, the lady I spoke to changed the office to the one close to me, but apparently that got forgotten as well.
Same issue.. they claim delivery was attempted but no card was even left at the delivery location. So obviously the driver was just lying, but when I told customer service they just brushed it off. So I just continued to ask the same question, until they promised someone with authority would call tomorrow to make sure the item was delivered. I mean it was a delivery to a 24 hour business, so to even claim that a postal notice was left but a delivery wasn’t made is a got damn joke. I don’t understand how there is zero accountability for drivers or the customer service agents. I was even told by two different agents I could go pick up the package that I paid to have delivered 10 minutes from the delivery location so I could get it there myself. So I drove an hour to go pick the thing up and upon arrival I was told I need an id with the exact delivery adress.. I told them no one lives at the adress it’s a business but logic didn’t prevail. So after another hour plus of calling customer service I left without the package, and I can’t get it back till they return to sender. I’m at a loss for words really this entire situation is so retarded.. and there is no one to be held accountable and nothing anyone can do…lol this was a time sensitive delivery only an hour away and we’re going on 10 days with no sign of a resolution for at least 5 more days.. lol
Canadapost specializes in lies. They have no control over their employees, be it drivers, supervisors, or managements. They insist NO ONE AT CANDAPOST has access to get in touch with their driver, and you know whats a LIE. Their CEO has poor customer service skills and his staff are a reflection of him. Canadapost always lies and claim they attempted delivery when their driver never even stops at the address. I have video recorded evidence of this. Their drivers drive by the address and hours later the system say ATTEMPTED DELIVERY… They are liars. It was brought to their attention many times, and their CEO is useless and never resolved anything. Now canadapost is resolving their horrible TRACKING SYSTEM by no longer updating it, you now have to wait over 48 hours for it to update. Pathetic excuse of a mail service.
and so it continues in December of 2018 – I have had at least 8 parcels that were supposed to have been delivered but not, some showed up two to three months later, one a letter carrier delivered at 9pm at night and said is this what your looking for – the rest of them I just gave up on. Today I had two parcels that were delivered but not delivered – one is being investigated the other one, they told me it was a miscan, and would be delivered tomorrow – how does one mis scan a parcel really – well we will wait until tomorrow but not holding my breathe
Thanks for sharing your own experience, “Annoyed.” I have to admit that I’ve seen slightly improved service here in Orangeville, but there is still much to be done to get service levels from Canada Post up to a satisfactory level. I can live with the odd mistake – I live with my own every day! But services and for that which others are paying me – frequent mistakes or non-deliverables are just unacceptable!
I too am in Orangeville. I run a small home business. Over the past 6 years I have spent almost $3000 on shipping fees with Canada post. They have never delivered a domestic shipment to my door…. Excuses include, that I’m not home,(I am, I schedule around their tracking when I’m getting shippments) no buzzer (building is 2 floors and doesn’t have a buzzer), no drop box, (there is) or, that my parcel won’t fit into the drop box. The same drop box that wasn’t there the first time they tried to deliver… The excuses are just B.S.
International shipments they do deliver, because they get commission for those. They make the international deliveries by tossing my package on the ground in the front lobby of my building.
The only time the service improved was for a period of 2-3 months earlier this year. I also found there was an evaluation going on with all of Canada post at the time. So they were just covering their own assess.
I have since shut down one side of my business. The last strike, and their less than mediocre services left me unable to obtain replacement parts for my customers. At least I don’t have to deal with them nearly as often now. 😉
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